• zekiz@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    They actually are in a position to do this.

    Nobody is switching to let’s say PeerTube because of something YouTube does as long as not every creator is switching too

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      1 year ago

      They are, but even YT won’t last forever. TikTok and IG are eating their lunch badly, and as YT continues to chase after that market and keeps neglecting and pissing off people that bring value to the platform, something just might crop up as an alternative.

      I mean, a month ago many thought Reddit is irreplaceable, and now look around.

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        I’m also hopeful for more creator-owned services like Nebula and Dropout. They tend to run off extremely cheap subscription models (about $5 a month for Dropout, less than $2 a month for Nebula) and all that money goes to the creators with very little business overhead in the way.

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        1 year ago

        But reddit is fundamentally built different than other social media platforms. Reddit is more like a collection of forums than a social media platform. The only thing that keeps people on reddit is the content and that can be moved.

        On Youtube its the Algorithm and the Content Creators that keep people to use the platform. PeerTube and LBRY simply don’t have the creators Youtube has.

        On reddit people choose what to see. On YouTube the algorithm simply is wayy more important than on reddit.

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          Exactly, it’s about creators and content. If enough creators get ticked off, they move, content moves with them and users follow.

          Let’s not overestimate the algorithm too much. Big Tech thinks it’s some godsend technology, but it’s just another buzzword meaning “stream of content”. If you don’t have any special care about what you’re looking at, then you can just scroll r/all or the TikTok front page, algorithm or not. And if you want some particular creators, you go where they go.

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            but creators won’t move because YT fights adblockers. Creators make money from the ads, so this actually improves YT for them.

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              Nobody makes money off YT ads, all the creators who do content for money are paid from donations or sponsors. (Ok maybe not those who make just 30 sec clips. I mean people who make useful content.)

              So at most this is meaningless. But it’s not like YT is exactly friendly to creators. There are constant complaints about YT breaking shit, their inconsistent and unclear rules and overall incompetence.

              One of these days YT will also piss off someone important who will move elsewhere with millions of viewers, and starts the flood.

              It’s not just about ads. Everyone knows Google is an extremely toxic company for all the parties except themselves.

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                Content creators do make money off ads*. Do you mean they make more money from sponsors and donations?

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                If that would really be true than they wouldn’t complain about being demonetized

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    It’ll probably end up being like twitch. You can either watch 5 minutes of blank or 5 minutes of ads. Either way, hopefully it won’t take yt-dlp long to be compatible. I mostly download my YouTube videos to a local server then search and watch them later just because my internet isn’t reliable. I assume this will soon become the only way to watch YouTube if you want to resist that idiotic propagandist.

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    Premium just seems like too expensive a proposition for the casual viewer. I use an adblocker but if they made premium five bucks a month I’d probably just do it. And I think many people wouldn’t mind paying that to avoid ads.

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      I looked up the article and it says they’re limiting users with an adblocker to 3 videos pet day. They’re testing it out on select users for now. Enshitification is killing all the sites I actually use(d) all at once