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Maybe (HBO) Max Just Isn’t Worth It::Warner Bros. Discovery’s latest earnings call reveals Max shed 700,000 subscribers in the past three months, even as it made money. That might work for Wall Street, but what about viewers?
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I just for the life of me cannot understand why all these companies thought it was a good idea to invest the time, money, resources, infrastructure, maintenance, and so many other things into developing their own service. Instead of just pawning off their content to some other sap who has to do all that shit for you. And making them pay you a pretty penny because you know they want your content. It’s just such incredible short-sightedness from companies that are constantly just chasing the biggest dollar. Like if anyone thought about it for a minute, all these companies would see that it wasn’t worth it to develop these services. They got scared cuz Netflix made some of its own good content. But realistically, if they just calm down they would have realized that Netflix can’t make bangers forever. And they’re still going to be invested in buying content from you. These big company should have gotten together and figured out how to reduce the price of cable so people fucking sign up for it and keep watching the mass amount of fucking ads.
Maybe this realisation is a good one on both fronts. Netflix was pretty uniquely positioned and had to actually compete against these giants, while the Giants are learning it’s hard and consumers don’t want 25 storefronts… convenience is key.
So maybe we will see some normalization in the streaming space.
I can hope… can’t I?
At this point I guarantee it’s going to turn back into cable where you’re paying $100 a month (with commercials) for the 2-3 streaming services that survive streamageddon.
You’re absolutely right.
I worry you are right
They saw Netflix was making a lot more money from their content and wanted s piecd of that pie. Now they’re slowly realizing it takes quite a while to get there.
Yeah but Netflix paid them for that content so it their fault they didn’t ask for a “fair price” or something. Also I guess they wanted to fuck over the artists by fudging with streaming numbers and pay them nothing.
I’m pretty sure that’s how Hulu started. A joint venture through several companies to stream all their shows. Problem is once Disney got in everyone else tried to spin up their own and cash out of Hulu.
It’ll be investing to see what alternatives crop up one piracy makes it’s comeback.
They all hoped their own service would dominate and incorporate all competition.
Which is short-sighted.
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It never was. I canceled after the end of Game of Thrones and never saw a point in paying their extremely high prices. Just like my house never had HBO growing up, I saw no need to get it now
Honestly I stopped playing video games a few years back and picked it back up during the writes strike. Dropped like $4,000 on a 7800x3d/4090 build. Cancelled all my steaming services , HBO Netflix, all of em, and signed up for game pass instead. I’m done watching stuff on them, if a series comes out I really want to see I’ll grab my wooden leg and eye patch from the back of th closet.
I commend you on taking your own entertainment in your hands, but I also find it ironic that you cancelled your streaming services which cost nowhere near 4 grand. If you drop 50 a month on subscriptions, it would take about 6.6 years to spend 4 grand, but it’s much more complex than that and I totally think that a gaming setup is worth so much more than streaming so I get it.
After 6.6 years of streaming, you will also own absolutely nothing.
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I mean do you really own your steam games either? I have 600 of em so game pass is more for the games I don’t care about “owning” but at the end of the day steam could shut down on 5 years an poof there goes your games. Lol
after 6.6 years the hardware will be almost worthless too, if you plan to resell it to someone else
That machine he built will not be anything close to worthless after 6.6 years. I literally just last week moved my spare 1080 ti into a second gaming computer. It came out in 2017.
I’m getting a strong vibe that people are just jealous so they have to convince themselves it’s not worth it or stupid so they can feel better about not having it themselves.
You realize I didn’t build my PC because I stopped watching streaming I built my PC because I wanted to build a new one and get back into gaming. You realize this computer will last years before I need any sort of upgrade? Lmao I swear some people are just so insufferable with their “insights”. I stopped paying for streaming because it’s expensive and there was nothing to watch, now that the writers strike is over I don’t care because I spend my time gaming instead which I actually enjoy more.
It’s an insight because many people can’t drop thousands on top of the line gear. Yes streaming is expensive, but if a family has disposable income, odds are they’re going to go for the lower hanging fruit and just get the streaming package, because the alternative is saving for X months/years for parts that are going to be useful, yes, but also completely wipe out savings.
If you’re wondering why your comment is downvoted despite being a reasonable insight, it’s because any remark in this community that even remotely contradicts a comment endorsing piracy is immediately treated to this hivemind behavior.
It’s anything that challenges an attack on a corporation, imo. If you just point out that a fact they claim is incorrect, even if you ultimately agree, you’ll be attacked as a shill and down voted.
I didn’t downvote it, but I disagree with the overall sentiment that just streaming for 6.6 years has the same value as getting a high end computer. Granted, OP could have saved a lot of money by getting parts a bit less close to the top, but a PC is a tool that can do so much more than 6.6 years of streaming (including that 6.6 years of streaming).
That may be so, but then we are comparing apples and oranges: for $4000, OP can still not stream any content unless they pay more for the services, which sort of defeats the entire argument. After all, they haven’t bought any games yet.
Which brings us to the essence: this comment thread was never here to actually discuss gaming or streaming content. OP didn’t even attempt to shroud the fact that they will continue to enjoy everything as they please by pirating it all.
I mean I might pirate somethi g once a year but you know me better than me
Just shut the fuck up, stupid motherfuckers thinking they understand someone else’s situation is hilarous.
There is no need to be rude. I was simply referring to your own declaration of your intents.
Oh I figured it was down voted for anti gaming sentiment.
At the end of all those years, you still have a pc.
Correct, a nearly seven year old PC that you never actually played a game on. Except maybe Fortnite.
Lol I have like 600 games on my steam account and I’ve played the majority of them… Idiots just jealous of someone having the money to drop 4k on a computer lol
My point here is that there are ongoing costs for purchasing more entertainment value and it’s not a one-off expense. I am not jealous about how much you have spent on your computer—in fact I think it’s great and hope you get a lot of enjoyment out of it. You have unfortunately completely misinterpreted the essence of what I have written in my comments.
I’m kinda over paying for it. I really only got it for Jon Oliver and it’s basically free on YouTube so idk. Also on my computer I click on my Max bookmark and it’s like “hey we’re not HBO max anymore! Now it’s just Max! Redirecting you now…”
What? Am I going crazy? What is even the point of that.
Rebranding is a way of indicating that they’ve done something (hopefully worth paying more for) without really doing anything at all. Great way for a new executive to make a non-decision.
I don’t know, because all I do is pirate. I used to use Netflix five or six years ago, but it went to shit enough where pirating just became easier again.
Where does one find a decent eBook torrent server. Asking for a friend who reads. He speaks Canadian, you wouldn’t know him.
Does it have to be a torrent server?
Why not use something like https://annas-archive.org/
Thank you
Most public libraries have OverDrive. While not torrented, you can get lots of ebooks for free! (if there’s a way to “keep” them from overdrive I’m not aware of it)
I am looking for a specific series that has about 40 books, spent about $35 so far at $5 each. Its pulp sci fi from the 60s. They take a couple days to read. I’ll keep paying but noone involved in the original work is seeing a cent of this.
I can’t find them at my library other than three audiobooks.
What series is this?
Dumarest. Studying it as much as reading for enjoyment.
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Amazing site.
A different kind of pirate!
There are difficulties with pirating. I had friends over to watch the Singles Inferno 2 finale, but didn’t have Netflix so I torrented it. The download made it to 95% before stalling. The video player on my roku tv would move on to the next episode whenever it encountered a glitch, so it was unwatchable.
I’m sure it works better for good shows, but if you want to watch trash, pirating isn’t as easy as it used to be.
Pirating is way easier than it used to be, you just can’t expect torrents to be grabbed immediately. Modern setups like an *arr stack with a bunch of configured trackers (or even better, usenet) will find basically anything you want, trash included, with enough seeds to avoid stalls. The niche stuff might need to run for a day or two, but it’ll finish.
I waited for the service to be available in my country for a very long time, now I don’t care 🏴☠️
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Netflix seems to hold on to content for as long as possible, but HBO is going the route of removing content to avoid paying residuals to cast and crew. Frankly, because of that terrible decision, I’m relieved to see people leaving. That’s right; I subscribed and they removed West World right as I started it. I’m bitter, but mostly, that’s just a nasty thing to do to the cast and crew of shows that people love.
Also, side tangent. What the hell is with modern marketing firms getting into the brains of c-suites and talking them into destroying their brand? I mean, “Max”? WTF? HBO has been a household name since the 80s; everyone knows it, there was no need for a change. You know what Max is to most people? Cinemax, another household name from the 80s. Just stupid.
Every time I go to buy cat food I have to hunt down the bag, because some asshole talked them into a logo/design/name change. They’re changing something their customers look for, because some marketer is rattling around in their heads. It’s maddening.
People ask me where my wife works, and I can’t remember the name, because some marketer talks them into a revamp every 2 years.
Did everyone just graduate from the Elon Musk School of Dumb Marketing Decisions? PLEASE STOP, DAMMIT!
It’s the least watched service in my household. It’s only still in our streaming subscriptions because of the low, very low price I’ve got in the first few weeks when t It was introduced here in NL.
I find the new “max” content bad. It’s not at the same level as the HBO series. My family just doesn’t bother with it.
The moment the new pricing and rebranding comes over here wil Probably be the moment I cancel.
House of dragons and the last of us is not enough to keep paying monthly.
Our household watches netflix, prime, youtube, disney+, skyshowtime (paramount) and lastly max.
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Fuck em
In the east EU I am paying 4,66EUR monthly for HBO Max service, which we share in 5 households. That is under 1EUR for each household. I will gladly pay that instead of downloading whatever already is on HBO Max.
They’re still fairly cheap in Europe and I really looked forward on getting to see their content a couple of years back, but now it looks like most of it could just as easily be shown on another platform like Disney or Netflix. There’s no real depth in most of it. I’ll keep hanging on watching shows like Insecure, but I wonder whether I’ll keep the account in future.
I’ve subscribed to them once a month each year these past three years, literally only to catch His Dark Materials. Now that that’s over I don’t see what else they have to offer.
It hasn’t been worth it for me since GoT. I didn’t pay for it directly back then, either, though. It’s always been included with some other service I was already paying for. There were brief gaps when I didn’t have it through something else, but it was never worth paying for in those moments.
