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“I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no water, no fuel, everything is closed,” Gallant said. “We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly.”

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      Oh, so war crimes are justified as long as the other side does it first?

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        Potentially, sure. Things like carpet bombing civilian areas, certain uses of minefields, certain munitions, etc are banned by convention but the thing about the Geneva Conventions are that they are a mutual treaty. Your nation agrees not to do it to other signatories or nations or forces that have otherwise agreed to the limitations as well.

        In this case? No. Not at all justified. Hamas might not agree to the Conventions, and thus don’t benefit from the protections, but the moment they suspended elections they lost the right to claim they represent the Gaza Strip, even if Israel didn’t claim it as territory regardless.

        Israel is a signatory of the Conventions, and the Gaza Strip is their claimed land, this is a war crime against people they claim as their own, the actions of what amounts to a domestic terrorist network is irrelevant to whether they can starve people into submission.

        A standard genocidal tactic of imperialists everywhere, mind you, from the Irish famine, to the Holodomor, to the Bengal Famines.

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      Yes but this particular news story is about Israel publicly announcing a war crime.

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        Murder is against the law in western countries but of someone tries to kill you, you can kill them in self defense.

        So yea of someone is committing war crimes against you, you can fo ahead and fight back to get them to stop

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          War crimes are war crimes, doesn’t matter if the other side started them first. Israel is stooping just as low as Hamas is with these tactics, you can and should fight in self defense without targeting Civilians

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            They don’t target civilians. Hamas does.

            When you build your headquarters inside a civilian hospital, and that hospital gets bombed, you are to blame for the war crime of positioning your HQ in a civilian hospital, not the person who bombs you.

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              If you build an HQ in a hospital that’s (likely? I’d assume so) a war crime. If your opponent then bombs that hospital to bomb you they are also committing a war crime. Some of you are insane, would you agree with the police shooting hostages because “well they took the hostages first, it’s their fault we shot them”. Fuck no, you’d cry for whoever did that to go to prison. Just because Hamas is stooping so low does not suddenly make it OK for Israel to stoop just about as low.

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                I only know the war crimes I was taught about that can plausibly be laid on Jews

                Yeah I’m aware. Show me on the doll where ((George Soros)) and the ((globalists)) hurt you.

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                  be laid on Jews

                  fancy how it always ends up being this according to people defending Israel as rightful. I don’t give a shit about Israel being mostly jewish. Should I give them a free war crime pass because they suffered from genocide in the past? That how you think this should work?

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                    I don’t care about your beliefs, because you are largely ignorant of the actual situation. I’m calling out the fact that your information sources are blatantly anti-Semitic.

                    You’re just their rube.

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          It’s legally how the Geneva Conventions work. You are only bound to them if the other side agrees to it as well.

          However, Hamas is not the Gaza Strip, it is not Palestine, and Israel claims the Strip as its territory anyways so to claim the civilian population doesn’t accept the Convention so they aren’t bound by it is ludicrous.