Barbara is right though, fireworks are a stupid tradition that can be better served with drone light shows or projection displays. They look way cooler, better for the environment, and don’t cause unnecessary stress for dogs and war survivors (soliders or civilians can suffer PTSD from war).
Fuck fireworks.
Served way better depends on what you’re goal is. For some people, the loud bang is the whole point. We’ve got 2 days a year where we shoot off fireworks, and everyone knows when they are. Only the animals are surprised. If we argue about necessity well just end up in the kind of argument that can logically lead to voluntary extinction. The amount of environmental disruption we consider acceptable is a matter of opinion, but it ain’t ever zero.
If we argue about necessity well just end up in the kind of argument that can logically lead to voluntary extinction.
This is doesn’t make any sense and the strangest attempt at a red herring I’ve come across on Lemmy, there is no necessity. Period. It’s still Independence Day whether or not you scare pets and veterans. You can celebrate with a BBQ like every other holiday. Basically you typed a lot of words just to say you don’t care how your actions effect others, or that your two seconds of pleasure is worth the well being of animals and neighbors.
Who are you to dictate what is and isn’t appropriate way to celebrate?
Many people are considerate about it as well as take efforts to do it safely.
Yea you can celebrate in other ways, but then again, right back at you.
You ar absolutely right there is no necessity, shit there is no necessity tot he whole fucking holiday.
But if you look into the history of the fourth, you’ll see there are connections, not just tradition either.
I find this ironic because it can easily be reversed. Basically you typed a lot of words just to say you don’t care how or where the fireworks occur, bottom line they are bad
Can you drop the hyperbole and look at it rationally? Why is your stance “fuck all fireworks for the good of everyone”, and not “do it somewhere else”?
WE CAN ACCOMMODATE BOTH
I am impacted negatively by fireworks but I recognize that isn’t grounds to shout anyone down that isn’t negatively impacted. All I need is it just to not happen near my house. Simple as that
At least don’t be the asshole that pops them off on any day that isn’t the holiday in question.
Like, at least on the day of, there’s sort of a tacit understanding for people with PTSD and nervous pets that THIS is the day to be prepared for and get through, so at least people know to be ready for it. Doing it on any other day and surprising them with it is such a self-centered, inconsiderate dickhead move.
Always blows my mind how much we hear red-blooded patriots go on about “the troops,” just to go and celebrate their patriotism by stressing the shit out of all the veterans in their neighborhood.
I just wish the people firing off the bang noise ones didn’t do it near me. I switch to panic attack. Each bang is literal pain for me… Blehg I used to not be like this…
Fireworks suck. I didn’t even like them as a kid.
Did Barbara consider its why we do what we do?
It’s a free country?
Everyone is free to be a dick. Still makes them a dick.
Still doesn’t mean you should be a dick and start setting off fireworks a week before the 4th
Try to remember who earned that freedom
Go next door and knock and just let them know you are going to be setting off fireworks. It isn’t that hard to be nice
Except for the few thousand ww2 vets left no living American service member fought for anybody’s freedom
LMFAO
earned what freedom? americas last “righetous” war was ww2 and just about every vet from that war is just about dead. fuck all USA soldiers post ww2 and fuck the usa. awwww have a lil ptsd from blowing up brown kids in the middle east? give me a break.
feel bad for the dogs tho
Imagine for a moment that you are a dumbass 17 year-old high school senior in 2002. Your grades are shit and you’re just barely going to graduate. Many of your friends are excited about going to college, while you are pretty sure that working behind the counter at the local gas station is basically all you’ve got.
Suddenly, a wild recruiter appears! He has a cool looking uniform and people say “Thank you for your service” and he gets treated with respect wherever he goes. He says he’s got a $30k signing bonus for you. He says you can choose whatever job you want, you don’t have to go get shot at. He says in 4 years when you get out, you’ll have skills and experience those college pussies won’t, you’ll get a good job and they’ll bitch on the internet about working at Starbucks. He says you can even go to college if you want, Uncle Sam will pick up the tab and you can spend 4 years getting drunk and laid.
Would you go, as this dipshit 17 year-old?
no lol. Youre a fucking idiot if you just sign up for war because a recruiter sweet talks you. Sorry but youu gotta think and actions have consequences. Being a dumb kid isnt an excuse to go die for a war machine. Know who i respect? that 17 year old that works in trades or becomes a garbageman or post office worker. i respect those guys. no sympathy for dumbasses who dont think and then kill kids because orders are orders and they can and never will think for themselves. Fuck them
Jesus, dude. Chill a bit. They were kids who were sold a bill of goods. Some of them legitimately believed they were doing something good and noble when they enlisted, and the people in power abused that ideology. It’s not the veteran’s fault. Hold people in power responsible, not the people who trusted them.
Edit: there’s no sense in arguing with you on this. I just saw your other comments, seems like you’ve got zero empathy. Wish you the best, champ. Hope you find some compassion in your life.
So the Wehrmacht who killed scores of jews were also “sold a false bill of goods” and just following orders right?
and nah i dont think i will chill bb gurl, go fuck yourself
and dont worry i do blame the governments and corporations that systematically keep people poor and then force them into said war machine and keep these forever wars going. I just also dont blindly excuse killers cuz they are poor. Go get a real job like a dishwasher or a sex worker.
I don’t think this is the forum to have this conversation, and anything I say will just prompt you to personally attack me. I think you should open your mind to other points of view and think critically.
Have a good day, and be well.
There’s a difference of being complicit and taking place in killing women/children and men in the thousands than being in the US military. Sit the fuck down and treat people how you expect to be treated.
Imagine for a moment that you are a dumbass 17 year-old high school senior in 2002. Your grades are shit and you’re just barely going to graduate. Many of your friends are excited about going to college, while you are pretty sure that working behind the counter at the local gas station is basically all you’ve got.
Suddenly, a wild recruiter appears! He has a cool looking uniform and people say “Thank you for your service” and he gets treated with respect wherever he goes. He says he’s got a $30k signing bonus for you. He says you can choose whatever job you want, you don’t have to go get shot at. He says in 4 years when you get out, you’ll have skills and experience those college pussies won’t, you’ll get a good job and they’ll bitch on the internet about working at Starbucks. He says you can even go to college if you want, Uncle Sam will pick up the tab and you can spend 4 years getting drunk and laid.
Would you go, as this dipshit 17 year-old?
I’m not sure how getting shelled by al-Qaeda earned your freedom. I think it just made people afraid of fireworks…
Lol at OP getting roasted in the when they thought they were gonna do real numbers and getting pats on the back
