I got banned from a regular sub on Reddit for saying it’s ok to punch Nazis. How refreshing.
Probably because it’s not okay to assault people who you disagree with or find unforgivable. Down votes and punching is easy, little kid stuff. Seeing where they are coming from, what they’ve been through, and understanding why they are this way, and helping them see their way out of it. That is the difficult part.
“People I don’t agree with” and “Nazis” aren’t the same people. I sympathize with people who have lives that lead them down the path to that, but once they’ve committed themselves to Nazism and start saluting in the street, then there’s no more sympathy.
To be clear, you can come back from a lot of shitty beliefs. I have. But I also didn’t march in white pride parades with swastikas. I’m not talking about run of the mill conservatives.
A few punches in the face while screaming “fuck you Nazi” might help them along.
Worth a try.
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THIS IS *NOT* OKAY.
This sets a dangerous example, and we need to talk about it.
If you punch a Nazi like this, you’re going to break your wrist. Remember, make contact with the largest two knuckles (index and middle finger) and keep a strong wrist. You want to hurt the Nazi, not yourself!
Stay safe out there and keep punching Nazis.
This has been a public service announcement.
[Two images shown side by side. The first shows a young man in a black shirt standing on a crowded sidewalk, his hand raised above his head in the historical “Nazi salute” with a lightly smug expression. There is a person’s hand holding up their middle finger prominently in his direction visible from the right side of the screen, but everything past their forearm is out of the image frame. In the second image, the same man in the black shirt is shown with his hand at his side, as a second man in an orange shirt is shown in the middle of punching the taller black-shirted man in the jaw. The fist of the man punching is angled slightly upwards at the wrist, so his fist makes contact at the knuckles on his fingers rather than using the flat surface of a typical punch. The image is captured before the man in the black shirt reacts to the punch. The hand holding up a middle finger is still visible in the right of the frame.]
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Thank you fellow human!
Beep boo- I mean you’re welcome!
Only good Nazi is a dead one
It’s infuckingsane to me that not even 100 years since the end of WW2 and there’s still nazis. Fuck Nazis.
I was banned from Reddit for saying I enjoyed the parts of red dead redemption 2 where you had to kill slave owners and kkk members. Literally said I enjoyed a mainstream video game and the main quest. Inciting violence against polygons in an imaginary world that took place 150 years ago.
Imagine saying you enjoyed playing Wolfenstein.
14 year account. RIP.
Reddit also banned me for saying nazis deserve to be punched. A comment I made under a post similar to this. Appearantly making such posts is fine, but commenting the same shit is unforgivable.
Ribbits
Yeah, I’m not sure what’s up over there where it suddenly became not ok to punch Nazis.
It used to be even mainstream media encouraged punching Nazis. Don’t watch an old Blues Brothers movie if punching Nazis offends you too I guess.
I hate Illinois nazis
We’re on a mission… From God.
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One can be conservative and not be a Nazi though. It’s weird how there is this vibe that you’re supposed to pick a side then vehemently defend the far extremes of what other with that political bent want to do. You have otherwise regular people saying it’s not okay to punch Nazis for example. Mainstream social media sucks.
The issue is that the mainline GOP doesn’t want to weed the Nazis in their midst, because elections are too close to afford the loss of their votes and the sympathizer votes.
I think reddit ostensibly banned /r/ChapoTrapHouse because the mods weren’t banning people who said slave owners should be killed.
I also enjoy killing the klan in Mafia 3
I got booted for saying we should kill them, in relation to a repeat offender pdf file.
Literally the next comment in the thread was saying it should be legal.
Wolfenstein: new order is pretty sus.
In the game there’s actually a Jewish Cabal conspiring against the third riche, which would make the Nazis…right?
Great game tho 7.8/10
And that kind of shit is exactly the reason why there’s still a denazified German version. Killing Nazis isn’t the issue, putting them in a metaphysical context, derealising them, etc, is what’s the problem. You don’t want kids one day to think of Nazis as fictional characters.
Wrong. Nazi symbolism is just straight up banned in Germany. There are exceptions for stuff like documentaries and also for use in art. Movies have been accepted as art for a while. Videogames only recently. The regular version os The New Order is now available in Germany. I am german and I have bought on steam.
History has shown us that there is only one solution to Fascism. Maybe it’s time to remind them.
My parents raised me with unfortunate views, as did the churches they forced me to attend. It was only through life experience that I came to realize they were wrong.
Violence didn’t help me, it made me feel isolated and more inclined to think that those using violence against me didn’t have rational arguments against my views.
Violence doesn’t win arguments, and it should be a last resort, using it for instant gratification is a sure strategy to prolong conflict.
My parents raised me with unfortunate views, as did the churches they forced me to attend. It was only through life experience did I come to realize they were wrong.
Violence didn’t help me, it made me feel isolated and more inclined to think that those using violence against me didn’t have rational arguments against my views.
Violence doesn’t win arguments, and it should be a last resort, using it for instant gratification is a sure strategy to prolong conflict.
I’ve only just joined after about 11 years on reddit, and I’ve only just realised we can say this shit about nazis here. I feel like a weight just lifted off my back.
Hostility towards Nazis is the only hostility I’d ever want to see on Lemmy.
I wish there was a nazi punching training camp. We need to teach the people how to punch nazis the right way.
Be careful punching nazis. A single punch can kill. People have gone to prison for a single punch. Do it masked up!
Well, you don’t have to be thaaaat careful. They have very thick skulls.
Its called a boxing gym.
The people who knew failed to teach their children about bayonets.
Rage against the machine
Former Speaker of the House, ® Paul Ryan’s favorite band
(He didn’t understand that he was a cog in the machine they were raging against)
He considers “Killing in the Name” to be a song of celebration, not of protest.
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True, but you should not assume that they will. As long as they are a nazi, they need to understand the societal shunning and physical danger cost that goes along with such a disgusting ideology.
Also, it’s a meme not a nuanced political essay about dealing with nazism. Obviously JUST punching them isn’t goint to work. Or at least not forever.
You can defeat particular group by force, but unless You deal with bigotry, nationalism and the material conditions that gave rise to it in the first place, the ideology will return in some form or the other
True, but you should not assume that they will.
And most importantly, you should never tailor your community around this assumption.
I grew up in the bible Belt and spent years watching my friends and family get deeper into the MAGA memes and conspiracies, so take it from someone who poured their heart and soul out trying to convince good people not to believe provably false nonsense when I say this.
Fuck em. They know it’s all bullshit. They know they can’t actually prove their bullshit. They don’t care. Few might eventually come back, but it’s not worth the emotional toll on you to try and convince them.
Hell yeah! Punch all the Nazis!
THE ONLY GOOD NAZI IS A DEAD ONE!
You’re godamn right, and I want my scalps!
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Reddit Nazis: Just can’t wait to go have a genocide!
*spez sleeps*
Anyone Else: Fuck the hell off. Your jaw needs a realignment
*spez announces red alert at Reddit HQ and personally fires a cruise missle to ‘removed by reddit’ your life*
How could you call them Nazi?!?!
They’re only saluting Hitler, the literal figure of the Nazi movement and regime – see, absolutely innocent!
The word Nazi gets used so inflatedly these days. Also, why is everyone calling me Nazi?
I wish this wasn’t the case! Was part of one of the carpet bombings
Legit, my entire account and all of the accounts that ever touched the OFFICAL reddit app, were all removed when I made a comment “Yeah, punch a Nazi, with a bullet.”
The accounts were all insta/perma-banned across all of reddit for this one comment.
Basically reddit was defending Nazis.
I am kind of not too sad to see reddit start sinking.
Oh yeah. When one of those subs start laughing it up about “free helicopter rides”, crickets. Reddit let them do that for YEARS before public outcry forced them to exercise some asshole control.
When people started laughing about Richard Spenser getting punched, the bans started flying almost immediately.
Let’s call /u/spez what he is: a Nazi sympathizer.
That’s basically what happened to me, too. Reddit is actual garbage.
There needs to be a national “punch a Nazi in the face” day.
I vote June 6th. (D-Day) Also, conveniently opposite January 6th. (The most recent battle lost by the Confederates.)
Not to burst your bubble, but that would unfortunately be July 6 opposite Jan 6
Cringe take to glorify any violence for having an opinion even if its offensive just as yours could be equally offensive to them. If you say your feelings aren’t hurt then you actually think violence is a good cause lol
If they think that someone saying people of all races or sexual orientations are equal is offensive they don’t deserve to be part of our society.
We have amendments for a reason
Paradox of tolerance, fuck nazis
everyone is gansta until someone pulls the paradox of tolerance by karl popper.
I don’t like philosophers in general but I think karl popper is specially full of shit, but I agree with your sentiment, I mean, who can in their right mind be against a “fuck nazis” comment?
1st amendment
All the American 1st amendment does is protect you from retaliation from the government if you bad mouth them. You start with that fascist shit and someone decides to introduce you to consequences, well have fun.
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The first amendment means that you can say whatever you want (with a few exceptions) and the government can not censor you. It means that you can call the president an ass clown or say that MTG looks like an inbred troglodyte and you won’t end up fined or in jail. It does NOT mean that you are free from the sociatial consequences of your actions. It does NOT mean that Twitter/Facebook/Insta/Reddit/Etc… have to let you say what you want. It does NOT mean you can’t get kicked out of a resteraunt for wearing a swastika. It does NOT mean you won’t get jacked in the face for being a nazi (though it’s still assault and you can sue on those grounds, but you wouldn’t be able to sue them for infringing on your 1st amendment right).
He is being very polite in telling you that you do not have a solid grasp of the constitution or any of its amendments, let alone the first. You a big fan of the establishment clause, too? Just curious.
“other people don’t deserve the same rights as me” is not a fucking political opinion you cretin.
Those who advocate violence and oppression deserve violence and oppression. Don’t want violence brought on you? Don’t bring it on others.
And just because they’re polite about it doesn’t change any of that. So fuck this “gosh golly gee I just think gays and Jews should be hanged why are you hitting me 🥺” act that isn’t fooling anyone.
Apologies if I misread your post, that all wasn’t necessarily directed at you.
We have amendments my guy
This is a nonsensical way to say what I assume you are trying to say. You are pasting this exact wording all over in here. I’m embarrassed for you.
Genocide is the central defining feature of nazism. Why should anyone care about the opinions of nazis or what they find offensive?
We have amendments for a reason
No amendment requires anyone to give a shit what nazis’ opinions are, or what offends them.
and you have the right to think that :D
I mean, it’s not like I’m taxing my imagination too much, since it’s true. No one is under any legal obligation whatsoever to give a shit what nazis are offended by.
I’m glad that they were defeated in the Second World War, and I believe that under no circumstances should they be welcome here or anywhere.
Violence is good, especially when punching nazis. The ideology is inherently violent. Punching a nazi is always self-defense.
We have amendments for a reason
I like to amend my knuckles to a Nazi’s jaw.
idc what you think. he wont go to jail and you will for assault, thats how the system works
Having done what is right, I will have no regrets. Perhaps he will have some. I wish even more upon him. His opinion is “I’m going to use the force of law to kill you as soon as I can” and if he gets punched for that repugnant idea, so be it.
Agreed. Knuckle-dragger response. Have everybody put together an “It’s OK to punch a ____” list, compile it, and let’s have a look. Won’t be pretty.
We have amendments for a reason
What do you suppose that guy’s opinion is that so angered these people?
This is my first post on the fediverse! Fuck Nazis.
Until it is done.
My parents raised me with unfortunate views, as did the churches they forced me to attend. It was only through life experience did I come to realize they were wrong.
Violence didn’t help me, it made me feel isolated and more inclined to think that those using violence against me didn’t have rational arguments against my views.
Violence doesn’t win arguments, and it should be a last resort, using it for instant gratification is a sure strategy to prolong conflict.
Thanks for sharing a bit about your life. I’m very proud of you (however much that means) and agree 100% with what you wrote.
However, I have also been on the receiving end. The childhood experience of watching racists shout slurs at my parents in a grocery store has permanently impacted my perspective.
Many try to ignore or debate with racists for years, and the violence you see often is the last resort.
I want to thank you for mentioning your belief that violence is not a good answer, because it prompted me to read up on the Stonewall riots before using it in a reply, which lead me to learning a lot more about the LGBTQIA+ community’s long struggle for equality in the United States than I ever expected.
Edit: I’m not sure I replied to the right comment here.
