• Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    Remember, conservatives did this. If not for conservatives worldwide, normal people would be able to proactively address this.

    When we are starving and potable water is scarce, be sure to aggressively thank a conservative neighbor for involuntarily sharing all their resources with the normal people.

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      1 day ago

      Plus the complete lack of effort on the part of any government anywhere… we are all so fucked.

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          The effort isn’t enough, and that’s the problem. U.S. emissions dropped 2.7% from 2023, that’s great, but that still means we pumped 4.8 billion tonnes of CO2 into the atmosphere (I don’t remember the exact phrasing your article used).

          We’re still pumping too much in, and not taking any out, and we’re already hitting limits we needed to avoid. And based on that recent AMOC collapse report that came out, a lot of these climate models weren’t even taking that into account, so I highly doubt we see a reverse of course on climate change as it continues to expound on itself year over year.

          The WWF reported a 69% average decline in all animal species populations on the planet since 1970.

          We missed the exit, everything until the cliff is grifters trying to set themselves up for the inevitable collapse at your expense.

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            The effort is not enough…yet. As long as we don’t start backsliding, we’re seeing an increase in effort year over year.

            the inevitable collapse

            THIS is the grifter bullshit. “Don’t bother acting, it’s too late”. Fossil fuel doomer propaganda.

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              THIS is the grifter bullshit. “Don’t bother acting, it’s too late”. Fossil fuel doomer propaganda.

              That’s not what I said, I said it’s too late, we missed the exit. Fossil fuel companies hid the research for decades, and I’ve heard nothing my entire life except how we need to act and change the ways we live and interact with the world.

              I’m almost 30, and our dependency on fossil fuels hasn’t changed, I’ve yet to see a meaningful societal shift away from the consumerism that drives the majority of climate change.

              And ok, we keep driving emissions down, what about biodiversity loss across the planet? How many plants and animals are currently on the brink of extinction?

              Let’s bring up developing countries, who are increasing their use of fossil fuels. Where is the international agreement to help modernize these countries with renewable energies? Who’s going to pay for it? We can’t get the countries of the world to agree we’ve overfished the oceans and they’re on the brink of collapse, where’s the international agreement to reverse that?

              I would argue I’m giving people a pessimistic reality of the future, sure, but at least it’s based in the current reality. Climate change extends far beyond the overall global temperature, and I’m sure climate and environmental scientists will be the first to say that there are a lot of pieces and variables we don’t fully understand, or haven’t even accounted for, because that’s just how science works.

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                our dependency on fossil fuels hasn’t changed

                What is this crap? EVs are all over the place and so is renewable energy. Emmissions are falling. We haven’t opened a new coal plant in a generation.

                And ok, we keep driving emissions down, what about biodiversity loss across the planet? How many plants and animals are currently on the brink of extinction?

                Ok? It’s bad and we’re working to fix it. That’s very different than “we’re all doomed and should stop doing anything”.

                Where is the international agreement to help modernize these countries with renewable energies? Who’s going to pay for it?

                https://unfccc.int/process-and-meetings/the-paris-agreement

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        Well when even the smaller cards require pallet delivery and a 4 man team to bring on site you know you fucked up

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      Next year is the year of lower emissions, maybe in two years. Who really knows? And time is such a funny thing… Oh look over there, solar panels! We’re fine! Buy more things, and make the line go up!

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        What the fuck are you even trying to say here? More solar panels increases greenhouse gasses??? Loony Tunes

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          I read it as criticizing consumerism culture and the idea that technology alone can save us without changing that system

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            Still dumb. Technology is actively saving us right now, as the link I posted shows.

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                Greenpeace spreads propaganda? Are you referring to nuclear? Because I don’t think nuclear alone would have prevented this, there’s still transportation, industry, and developing nations that wouldn’t be able to use nuclear.